Guidelines for 928OC Event Support

hb4;16225 wrote: Two options for non-members makes more sense to me; one that has a surcharge over the members' fees to offset the OCIC support per member (so that the OC is not supporting non-members), and one that equals the member fee plus a membership. The OC is made whole and gets new members, the members fee is less so it encourages attendance, and the producer has an easier time getting attendees.

Bill,

I'm sorry. I'm not following you. Maybe if you could provide an example with some dollar figures I'd be able to get it.

Stan Shaw - good riddance to you my friend maybe the OC can prosper in your demise - I will not continue your stupid game - maybe the OC Board can muzzle you once and for all.
Done nothing and continue to do nothing but be a thorn in the side of the OC - glad to see I am not proved wrong and that you have not changed one iota. You are such a small dot in the possible future of the OC (if they want a future). Continue to change all the rules you like but your involvement will continue to melt away.
Yours very un-respectfully,
Roger
PS : With a bit of luck I will be excommunicated for calling you out for what you really are.

When the OC provides a large sponsorship I don't think it's unreasonable to ask for a post-event accounting. The OC board has a responsibility to the members to make sure that member funds are spent wisely, and being able to see the event's income and expenses is simply a way to have a written record of that.

Greg - I can't believe you stand by this statement - You (OC) have no involvement or interest in the fiscal responsibility of the event apart from being a sponsor allowing you the "pleasure" of gaining from the hard work of the organizers and yet you ask them to justify their work to you (the OC) financially - sorry but you and the OC are SO wrong. That is so disrespectful and so out of the norm. My company sponsor more events than the OC and never have I asked for financial reporting - so why the OC - are you above common business practices - are you (the OC) super special??? When Pirelli sponsored $800 worth or tires did they ask for FULL fiscal reporting????
When I report for tax reasons it is a "line item" and I do not need to support the reasons for making that decision.
I just sent you a check for $200 for sponsoring the "Frenzy" no request for fiscal reporting was mentioned at all.

Roger Tyson;16228 wrote: Stan Shaw - good riddance to you my friend maybe the OC can prosper in your demise - I will not continue your stupid game - maybe the OC Board can muzzle you once and for all.
Done nothing and continue to do nothing but be a thorn in the side of the OC - glad to see I am not proved wrong and that you have not changed one iota. You are such a small dot in the possible future of the OC (if they want a future). Continue to change all the rules you like but your involvement will continue to melt away.
Yours very un-respectfully,
Roger
PS : With a bit of luck I will be excommunicated for calling you out for what you really are.

Just keep posting Roger, so the world can see you for what you are.

In regard to the "accounting" requirement/request, which seems to be a major issue for some, I believe we should all remember that ANY OC expenditure is actually 'other peoples money' (i.e. members have put those $ into the OC account. Thus, it is the Boards opinion that the 'members' deserve an accounting. The OC would be delighted for the organizer to make a huge profit, as that would mean the event was a huge success.

Gary Knox
928 OC Treasurer

Whew!

Greg,
I guess it could go like this:

Assume that the OCIC contributes $15.00 per attendee, the producer needs $50.00 per attendee to break even, and OC dues are $28.00. Add-on membership means that a year is added to a membership when the current membership runs out.

Attendance fees:
Member fee: .................................. $50.00 (to producer)
Member fee with add-on membership:.. $78.00 ($50 to producer, $28 to OCIC for those that want the convenience of one-stop shopping)
Non-member fee:............................ $65.00 ($50 to producer, $15 back to OCIC as a 'refund' to their contribution for a non-member attendee)
Non-member fee + membership: ........ $78.00 ($50 to producer, $28 to OCIC)

The package deal encourages new memberships by saving non-members $13.00 over the OCIC and membership separately, and the OCIC is compensated for their non-member costs. Any new members just improve the OCIC numbers and existing members have the choice of deciding to renew at their anniversary or adding a year onto their membership at their anniversary automatically. And the producer has an easier 'sell' to the existing members with the smaller fee.

The OCIC could also choose to subsidize an existing member's add-on membership cost if there was a compelling reason for driving members toward add-on membership. I'd be curious to know what that might be, since it only affects a fraction of the membership.