Questions for the Andrew Olson Candidate

"The volunteer organizers stated in respect to the 2009 Convention that "we made a profit" and I think they may have even refunded to the Club some portion of the money paid in advance for the event, but I am pretty sure that there was never an accounting and I suspect that there was more profit that was simply pocketed."


Jerry I find this statement very very offensive and ask that you publically apologize to myself and the teams of people who selfishly worked to make these events successful.
I WOULD NEVER POCKET MONIES from an event such as this and quite to the contrary paid money out of my own pocket – how dare you say such a thing and totally unbecoming of you.
I ask the moderators and the President of this club to ensure that your comments are removed once your apology is forthcoming.
Roger

Both the OCIC in Dallas and Wichita were banner 928 Owners Club events and never once was my company name used in a manner to further my business over and above that of being one of the sponsors.

To the contary I did everything possible to push the 928 OC in every way.

I even give up 5% of my profit (small as it is) to those who are memebers of this club, when they order from us. That is a two way street.

My position is that when a member volunteers to conduct the convention that is no difference from the President or the others volunteering their time and effort for the Club. None of them should be in a position to profit from it!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyone doing an International Convention for the Club is in a clear fiduciary position in respect to all of the money associated with the Convention and should quickly account to the club for all of it, win or loose. Jerry Feather

Jerry, I don't know what your motivation is but you have no idea of what you are talking about. Andrew Olson is not, and has never been any part of the OCIC in 2009 or 2012. Why would you expect him to have any answers. You also did not attend the 2009 event, at least not as a registered attendee, because I have all the records from both events and your name is not on the list for 2009! Yet you have an opinion of past history of that event. So it appears it's all conjecture. None of the organizers of the 2009 or 2012 profited a single dime from either event, and I was one of two organizers for both events.

Also several other vendors were invited to join us in Kansas but declined to participate either in person or with donations. All of the attendees paid for their lunch. Go look at your registration, you were charged $15.00 for lunch for each attendee and their guest ($15.00 each). Yes the OC was asked to fund the dinner and the T-shirts. We spent $1800.00 to rent the convention center, $4,572.04 for the meals, cash bar and other catering expenses, $600.00 for insurance, plus the cost of the web site, registration expenses, trophies and certificates. So for an event costing well over $7,000.00 we asked the OC for $2800.00 to help offset some of these expenses. We also worked very hard to keep the costs down for all attendees. We chose not to spend $1200.00 just to park on the street during the Wichita car event.

We went to Kansas in 2012 because the costs were much less than in 2009 and because it was closer to the center of the country. Unfortunatly we are still in hard economic times and many who wanted to come simply couldn't afford the trip. In 2009 we also funded several members, paying all of their expenses (including hotel expenses) to those owners that were unemployeed. We extended that same offer to several members in 2012.

I think James said it best, "All the petty squabbling, back stabbing and infighting needs to stop!" I'll say it a little differently; stop stirring the pot when you have no idea of the facts.

Jim Mayzurk
93 GTS 5-
A work in progress

I think this nonsense has to stop....there are a lot of good names being trashed in these threads, and for purposes that are no longer clear to me. What is clear is that the two candidates have distanced themselves from these vitriolic attacks coming out of supporters for both sides. This is no longer a constructive dialogue, and I question the basis for keeping any of these "political" threads open any further.

I have been a paying member of the 928OC since my first shark was bought in 2003-04, and I have been a member of this and the predecesor 928OC forum the entire time. I do not recall ever seeing this type of behavior in the forum here.

So gentlemen, let's stop and get back to civility.

linderpat;11047 wrote: i think this nonsense has to stop....there are a lot of good names being trashed in these threads, and for purposes that are no longer clear to me. What is clear is that the two candidates have distanced themselves from these vitriolic attacks coming out of supporters for both sides. This is no longer a constructive dialogue, and i question the basis for keeping any of these "political" threads open any further.

I have been a paying member of the 928oc since my first shark was bought in 2003-04, and i have been a member of this and the predecesor 928oc forum the entire time. I do not recall ever seeing this type of behavior in the forum here.

So gentlemen, let's stop and get back to civility.

here, here!

Below is a little tidbit concerning the 1st 928 Owners Club International Convention in 2000...of which the OCIC was ALWAYS supposed to be the OFFICIAL 928 Owners Club Convention...and Official Business WAS discussed there, as that was why it was originally conceived to start with. It was intended to be a time/place where the Officials of the 928OC would ALL meet in person to discuss current and future 928OC business and face to face with as many members as possible....oh yeah..and PARTY TOO.

Somewhere along the way it was "whored out" and turned into just a "name"..IMHO that started in 2006, no reflection or anything personal upon anyone involved with that OCIC,..it is just how I see it.

BUT, honestly since the 928OC could not pull it together and continue the "Official Event", my hats off to those people that at least stepped up and tried to continue the tradition that Marc White and others started, even if it was just a name....specifically what Roger has done the last 2 OCICs...like it or not,...a real OCIC or not,....what he and his team has done organizing and putting on the last 2 "OCICs" has done more to promote the 928 Owners Club than from ANY other person OR organization, INCLUDING the 928 Owners Club itself...and if it had not been promoted on Rennlist and instead just here on this forum....there may have been only 3 people there, instead of over 50..and trust me, in this economy, plus due to the fuel costs and lack of "play money" by many, it WAS a good showing of support.

Congrats again to Roger and his team and thanks for organizing and promoting the OCICs as well as they did, and they did it VERY well...and in doing so keeping the presence of the 928 Owners Club out in the "real world". It's the only real presence, or real mention, I have seen of the 928OC in many, many years.

For the record, anyone that knows me, or ever heard me speak of the 928OC knows all too well I have always spoken strongly about NO Vendor involvement in the 928OC on an official level, same as I have said about NO outside advertising on the website/forums....that is no secret and has been that way for over a decade,.. it has NO reflection on Roger or ANY specific Vendor......BUT, just as I did back in my day, if no one else will do it, I can't fault ANY Vendor who steps up and puts his/her time/money/resources to do what the Club won't or can't seem to do for itself.

In reflection of the "Good Ole Days" when we ALL acted as ONE...., not as directed by ONE.

Message from "Mr OCIC" , Marc White concerning the 2000 OCIC prior to the event...

"Hi Gang:

I guess now I have to think again. Hmmm.

It has been quite a challenge to pull this together, but I have had wonderful help. Christine Graham has worked very hard to launch the website by 2000, and she did it! There was lots of code to be sure. I am very proud of what has happened so far on this project, and more good things are on the way to being announced.

Watch the website for additions often. Soon the pre-registration site will be replaced by the "real" site complete with e-forms for signing up for varied activities and events. We have received lots of interest and pre-registration forms since kickoff on 12/31/99, and this is quite encouraging.

We hope to have regional members support by organizing caravans for the drive here. Tell your pals with 928s. Check with some owners you see from time to time. Ask your mechanic who owns 928s and LOVES them. Spread the word. I want pictures of the line of 928s pulling into Wichita this July. I will drive out, meet you and join in!

We also will be needing Concours judges, and Ed Ruiz is coordinating that. Ed may have a post soon about his needs in this regard, but he has great plans for what will be a memorable 928 experience.

At the event we will need volunteers to help with registration and coordination. Additionally, many of you have special talents and knowledge. If you would like to help out, please contact Michael Gerard who is coordinating the volunteer effort. What a perfect match for that job, thanks Michael. You can reach him from the email links on this website, or by email direct, Michael Gerard.

A quick "Thank You" to members of the 928OC-IC Commitee, interested parties and helpers to date. This list includes Leonard Laub and the Founders of the OC, Ed Ruiz (Founder) with his help and interest in the Concours (look over the site as this will be a "928 style" event!).

Philip Adamson (Founder) from New Zealand provides some OC artwork. David Roberts (Founder) for his early support and commitment to attend. Kim Crumb (Founder) for his wholehearted support. Phil Tong (Founder) for all the great things he does for 928ers.

Greg Yocom, Scott Tychsen, Terry Morris, Chester Bailey and all of the Wichita Region PCA for their production of the Hallett Track DE and support of the entire program. Mo Zahr for the Tech Session with a panel of 928 experts. Michael Gerard for handling volunteer duties. Gary Carpenter puts on the Automobilia Moonlight Car Show and Street Party (watch the site for new pictures of past years events).

Mark Anderson of 928 International. Marc and Susan (Kirby) Thomas of DEVEK. The Austin Gang for their support and volunteer help; Christine, James Morrison, Jerry Gebhard, Jim Stadter, Chris Perez and more. Sterling Gee in Dallas. Walt Konecny in Salt Lake City. David Lloyd, Mark Kibort, JP Rodkey, Rich Andrade, Ken Postma, Louie Ott, Don Hanson, Roger Woodbury, and a host of others.

This event has truly been designed for 928ers by 928ers. You had better come and check out the goodies.
Marc White
Event Chairperson"